Baba then explained, "On this gross plane, we only see, feel and taste gross things. There are three spheres [planes] of consciousness — gross, subtle and mental. As the pilgrim advances on the Path, he passes through many wonderful experiences, and with the growing of his consciousness, he sees things that quite daze him. But all this and everything else is illusion. He is so dazed that he actually gets stuck on the Path. He can neither go forward nor retrogress."

Baba cited the instance of a seeker stuck on an inner plane who was so dazed by the experience that he lost consciousness and kept hanging from the branch of a tree for four years.

Then Baba remarked, "There is only one way to escape this illusion, and that is, I repeat, to take my name, have my remembrance and love me. This will get you God!"

Baba showed the group the Blue Bus and gave them a tour of the women mandali's side and Mehera's garden at Meherazad, pointing out his bedroom on the upper floor of the house. When someone remarked how beautiful the surroundings and house were, Baba commented: "I can equally appreciate all sorts of surroundings. I do not mind sleeping out in the open under a tree, as well as occupying a nice room in a spacious bungalow. Now you find everything tiptop here, but in the old days in Meherabad, I led a very rough and harsh existence. I would travel thousands of miles on foot, by bus or train and rest on the station platforms.

"Once, during a tour in Gujarat, a thief, to save himself from being arrested by the police, laid down next to me and pretended to be asleep by covering himself with my sheet."

The sahavas group then returned to Meherabad. Baba arrived there at 2:00 P.M. after stopping at Khushru Quarters.

After consulting with Pendu about the group's departure the following day, he came to the hall at 2:30. Some of the group sought Baba's permission to pay their respects at the tombs and shrines of other Sadgurus and saints, whereupon Baba remarked, "Personally, I have no objection. But if you hold fast to my daaman and obey me, you will realize the Truth. You are free to follow your religion if you want, but it will lead you nowhere. Spirituality is an entirely different thing, and unless you become like the dust under the Master's feet, there is no hope for salvation."